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SillyGoose22
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BPD and relationships struggles

Hi all,

 

This is my first time posting in a forum. I was diagnosed with BPD a year ago, and also have depression, anxiety and my suspected PTSD (My therapist said this but no formal diagnosis). At the moment I am doing CBT sessions and a DBT skills group, which has been challenging but good. As it says in the tittle, I was wondering if anyone else struggle with relationships. I know I struggle with interpersonal relationships for a couple of reasons:

 

1. I have low self-esteem. As a result, I tend to verbally rely on external validation from others. Recently, I had an argument with my housemate how she finds this tiring, which is fair. I know I should learn to validate myself, but it is really really hard. Recently I was talking to my therapist how I hate listening to my friends 'boast'/always talk so positively about themselves. My therapist pointed out that the irritation and discomfort I feel is because some people would then share something positive about themselves, or their own accomplishments in response to my friends 'boasting' but I don't. I feel like I am a horrible person. I should be happy that my friend was raised in an enviroment where they felt comfortable sharing their accomplishments, opinions and thoughts and feel secure in their self-image. Instead I want to tell them to shut up and hold them to my standards of impressive.  

 

2. I have negative self talk. For me, I find that a situation will occur, and then I magnify it myself as negative thoughts swarm. For example, I had never load a dishwasher before in my life and I asked a friend to help me. I was handing things to her when she says in a snappy tone, "Can you not? When I load the dishwasher, want to load the dishwasher". In response, my thoughts immediately go: 'I am an idiot', 'you can't do anything right', 'They hate me' etc. I then completely start sobbing to my housemates surprise. This is one example, but it commonly happens at work, and sometimes I will cry at work. 

 

3. I self sabotage my relationships. When I am depressed, I withdraw completely from my friends and will just ghost everyone. Then, when I feel a bit better, I am left with anxiety about reaching out to the people I ghosted, so I don't contact them ever again. I also tend to be defensive and argumentative by nature. 

 

4. I feel chronically empty/feels like there is not on single person who can truly understand me. I also feel like I am weird and that people don't like me. This means I really struggle with making friends and feel isolated. I also will often feel lonely in a crowded room and I struggle as I have no family: my Mum died when I was 10, my Dad left when I was 12, and my Auntie didn't want me to live with her so I have been independent from when I had just turned 17. My only family: a twin sister also has BPD but she experiences hallucinations and I am a support for her mental health. I sometimes get jealous at other peoples family situations even though you can't compare people situations.

 

So, as you can see from the above, I am not great at relationships for different reasons. I just feel like so many of these are my fault, and I should just fix these but I find it so overwhelming. My therapist explained that some of these issues stem from have negative 'core beliefs'. I feel like there is so much I need to change and it's hard to do show kindness to myself when I am the problem 90% of the time. I also struggle with abandonment issues, so whilst my interpersonal life is on fire and burning down, I feel like if I argue with people too many times, they will leave (which they are allowed to do). With this combination of things going on, I find it hard to be motivated with for change and feel hopeless.

 

I guess I just wanted to hear if anyone else struggles. Thanks for reading and I am sorry for the long post.

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Re: BPD and relationships struggles

Hey @SillyGoose22 ,

 

Welcome welcome! 

 

It's like you are telling my story 🙂

 

I've had BPD for many many years now. I totally relate to everything you have shared.

 

I feel borderlines are quite hypersensitive when it comes to external stimuli and hence they can feel things are lot more than others - and it can hurt!

 

The negative self-talk is also so true. That internal dialogue is constant so that even if something is not true, we talk about it so much internally that it becomes the solid truth, which in turn affects our behaviour.

 

Self-sabotage? Totally. As though we are always LOOKING for evidence to back up our thoughts and PROVE why something or someone is 'bad'

 

Emptiness and Void? Absolutely. Even when in a crowded room, the void is so large and big that it hurts.

 

So yes, I totally get it.

 

Where to from here? I've some intensive psychotherapy aimed and strengthening the ability to mentalise (MBT). It's been the best thing out. Along with elements of DBT and ACT, once I 'got over' the hardest part, I've never gone back.

 

BPD is very treatable. Whilst the pain is excruciating, it doesn't have to stay that way. 

 

After suffering for about 15 years, I'm in a much much better place now. 

 

I also hope this will be the same for you.

Re: BPD and relationships struggles

Wow @SillyGoose22 . I feel your pain. Have you tried accepting yourself the way you are now instead of feeling like you have to improve yourself straight away. I'm talking all the good and all the bad. Making a list of all your 'goods and bads' on a piece of paper if you can. Then sitting with it - metaphorically and literally (e.g. Zen). Also sitting with that empty feeling you have (And I know so well). Learn to accept yourself as you are now because in the end, you are still a perfect whole human (You are not broken).

Once you have properly done this, then you can use CBT and DBT to solve the issues you listed.

If this is too much for you at the moment, then try breathing at least once before reacting to anything.

Re: BPD and relationships struggles

Hi Silly Goose

 

ALL of what you have said is so relatable! 

I’ve experienced these issues too. 
ghosting - check 

explosive reactions- check

self sabotage- definitely! 

it takes time and a lot of work to learn to regulate. I’ve only had a proper diagnosis a few years and I am still navigating this. 

I don’t know if this is helpful but you certainly are not alone 

Re: BPD and relationships struggles

Hey @lostNclueless @SillyGoose22 @Cleo2 ,

 

How's the BPD world going? I hear we can all relate to these experiences. They are so real to us all.

 

It reminds us that we are not alone.

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@tyme 

How’s it going? 

it’s brutal.  Constantly feeling like you just don’t belong anywhere that nobody gets you.

 

needing validation and feeling I’ll at ease pretty much most of the time. 
situations that probably wouldn’t bother most people can flip you over the edge. 

the moment you feel like you’re starting to feel a little more calm/normal some person comes along with a harsh comment or a jarring opinion or is just a hick, and backslide we go. 

the medical system either doesn’t see us or refuses to deal with us. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been sent to emergency by some ignorant doctor just at the mention of BPD. 

I recently sacked a psychologist because she refused to see my diagnosis and tried to pigeonhole me as having ADHD just because she didn’t want to deal with a borderline. 

I can’t speak for all of us but it is bloody hard at times. Overwhelming and utterly frustrating. 
soul destroying.  
not enough research, not enough support and a LOT of stigma. 

Re: BPD and relationships struggles

You're right @lostNclueless .

 

A lot of people are NOT willing to treat BPD. I feel this is because there is more risk, and you can't see results after a few sessions. It needs long term therapy and support to unlearn some of those unhelpful thinking patterns and practice new one.

 

Conversely, there is a dedicated group of clinicians who thrive on working with those with BPD. I've met them. Out of all MH conditions, they choose solely to work with those with BPD. These are the clinicians you need to find. 

 

My therapy was through a BPD specialist clinic in Victoria. Best thing in town for me. I can't believe I'm so well now. 

 

BPD is treatable. I hope you find the therapists who are willing to work with you - as you are. @lostNclueless 

Re: BPD and relationships struggles

How are you @lostNclueless @SillyGoose22 ? What's been happening?

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@tyme 

TBH I’ve been in a very low place lately. At rock bottom. 

im depressed, feel hopeless.  Back to work tomorrow for the first time in three months.  I should feel good about this but with everything happening between my husband and I I don’t. 

it’s pretty lonely 

Re: BPD and relationships struggles

Hey @lostNclueless ,

 

I'm so sorry to hear how much you are struggling. 

 

As hard and work seems at the moment, do you think the routine will being some form of stability for you while things are a little topsy turvy?

 

I'm here if you need a chat.

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