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27-06-2017 07:24 PM
27-06-2017 07:24 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
Hi @Faith-and-Hope, great to have you here with us tonight.
I can hear from everyone that the desire to want to help our loved ones becomes very challenging when it's not on their radar to take that step towards support and possible treatment. I hope tonight's discussion can help you all in some way.
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27-06-2017 07:29 PM
27-06-2017 07:29 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
Ammmm @NikNik, that is tricky xx
I would say 3, 4, because he wants to , we talk about it and do planning but it all falls through with him making all sorts of excuses , hopes this makes sense @Former-Member
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27-06-2017 07:30 PM
27-06-2017 07:30 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
That model is very helpful and No1 son is definitely at contemplation. Sometimes taking action, but its definitely not regular or consistent yet. Do we push, encourage or let him continue on his own?
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27-06-2017 07:30 PM
27-06-2017 07:30 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
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27-06-2017 07:31 PM
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Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
that is a good question @JayAr
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27-06-2017 07:33 PM
27-06-2017 07:33 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
I think we have to consider our conversations as to what stage they are in. It looks like we have most people whose loved ones are around the 1-3 mark.
Pebbles is going to touch on conversation tips soon, so that might be helpful JayAr
Do any other members have thoughts on JayAr's question in the meantime?
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27-06-2017 07:36 PM
27-06-2017 07:36 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
They don't see the effects it has on themselves and especially those around them.
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27-06-2017 07:36 PM - edited 27-06-2017 08:58 PM
27-06-2017 07:36 PM - edited 27-06-2017 08:58 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
That's a good point @JayAr it can be hard to know what to do and when. I think it's important to remember that everyone's situation is unique however I wonder if looking at ways in which we can can help our loved ones when they are resistant could be helpful.
One of the best things we can do if we’re concerned about someone’s mental health is talk to them and encourage them to seek the support of mental health professionals.
Starting this kind of discussion is not always easy, can anyone share their experience of what has been helpful or not helpful in starting such conversations?
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27-06-2017 07:39 PM
27-06-2017 07:39 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
With @JayAr question I think it's always better to encourage people not to dwell or wallow in their problem as it feeds it and becomes worse. As parents we can only try our best, once they become adults it's harder to help. My parents both had personality disorders and as children we had to suffer them as adults it leads to dysfunctional behaviour and lack of communication which just adds to the problem and frustration
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27-06-2017 07:40 PM
27-06-2017 07:40 PM
Re: Topic Tuesday // Caring for men who don't care about themselves // 27 June, 7pm AEST
My son just gets angry whenever I suggest he needs some help. He has friends who have tried to advise him that he needs rehab but ignores them as well.