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@chibam 

 

I need to be more awake and have a clearer mind before I reply.

 

I am very tired now as it is late.

 

I will write when my mind is clearer.

 

Please keep on writing about anything

Others would love to hear from you as well

 

Goodnight

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@tonys 

Welcome if I have not already welcomed you.

 

You were extremely brave in opening up about the hump that you carry.

 

I hope that you are feeling safe within yourself now.

Sometimes when we go back to pain that has been with us for a very long time it can leave an open wound.

This might not be the case with you as you wrote articulately about the event and how you have handled your life since.

 

Even so I just want to check with you as you are just as valued on here as everyone else.

 

I think that you have noticed we support each other and care.

 

Goodnight for now

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Yes. I will try one last time.

 

I didn't know I was being hard on myself @Former-Member 

I'm getting a vibe.

 

I will need lots of help.

 

I can only think now that I don't recognise my own mental health & disabilities. 

 

I have never been cared for. Not to the level I really need.

 

Thus burnout.

 

How else would I be easy on myself?

 

 

Re: Motion - new pathways - air -sea -land -us

@Former-Member   Thanks motion for the welcome.     Brave . . .?   nahhh .   but cheers anyway.

The real message was in the tittle.   The. . . '2nd'. . .  worse  Christmas I ever had.

  I  had It way way worse than that in my life,    The grime  that stalk the city streets,  They need to feed,  The hot iron   brand their pray with life long lessons.   Its about growing flowers in those hard streets of stone we all find ourselves lost on,   time to time.

   Its about the power of the mind. . .       and i miss Jay.

Now . . . .  my rabbit   and  cat are having a full on blue  for pole position on my  bed. . I gotta go

 

Good work you do  friend                             tonys moonbase one. .

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Hello @StanD 

 

I will reply to you first as your message started with the words

 

Yes. I will try one last time.

 

I didn't know I was being hard on myself @motion 

I'm getting a vibe.

 

I am saddened by the fact that you say try one last time.

Are you so disheartened by my reply that you do not want to write anymore?

Or are you frustrated with my words and expressing that you do not want to write about this subject?

 

Then you wrote

 

I can only think now that I don't recognise my own mental health & disabilities.

 

I am now thinking that it is better that I do not write suggestions as these are only around my way of thinking mostly. Some are what I have been advised in my own therapy over the years.

The main thing is that you are not me and what helps me might not help you.

I am not qualified.

I write to try and reassure you.

 

Are you able to let me know when I write something that you do not agree with or like and therefore think no more of it?

I would prefer this than you interpret it as you do not recognise your own mental health and disabilities.

I am not trying to advise you about this subject at all so please do not feel that you are failing there.

 

How else can you be easy on yourself?

I was trying to tell you that I can relate with your dilemma here as I have been extremely hard on myself my whole life. I am very good at helping others and suggesting that they be kind to themselves but I do not say the same words to myself.

 

Does this mean that I am a fake or do not mean what I say?

No most definitely not.

My intention is only ever to help.

 

I am different too remember and am misunderstood often in real life.

I constantly have to explain myself or justify my words.

 

I don't want to say any more as I think that you are very brave and strong.

I think that you are exploring yourself.

I also think now that I am not helping you do that.

So I will talk about other things with you if that is your wish.

 

I am not upset with you so do not feel that you have done something wrong or need to apologise.

 

You are honest and direct.

I love honesty the most.

 

Keep on being you StanD

 

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Hello @tonys 

 

Well @tonys 

I have learnt that others see us differently to how we see ourselves.

 

We cannot change how other people see us though that is up to them to get to know us and change their opinions if they have them. Sometimes they don't even think about us and we imagine that they are thinking all sorts about us.

 

I read something a while back and wrote it down. I do this and carry it with me to read if I start noticing the self doubt arising.

I will look for it and share it with everyone.

 

My thoughts are we can know ourselves better than anyone else and help ourselves to be the best that we can be;to learn more about life and people;If we try;we can make mistakes and hopefully learn from these. Try something else.

 

Your experience with street life sounds gruelling and life changing.

Growing flowers in between the cracks is a beautiful way of looking at what I see life as it really is.

 

The power of the mind and exploring our own mind not comparing ourselves to others as no one person is the same.

 

These are my thoughts not the gospel truth as it once used to be referred to.

 

You miss Jay and Jay would love to hear that although in my way of thinking I believe that Jay knows this as you are a deep thinker and are in touch with your emotions.

I love this about you Tonys.

It is a good thing to miss those we love and remember them. I do not mean dwell on the past.

I mean remember them for the love and trust they gave you.

You were a beautiful friend and you were there for Jay.

 

Rabbit and cat squabbling for land rights on your bed. Sounds just like pets.

The more attention they receive the more they want and they want it all each of them.

 

Hope that you had a restful sleep before you start your hard working day ahead.

 

Bye

 

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Hello @chibam 

 

I have thought about your words for some time now.

I do feel hesitant in replying as I am aware that we look at this topic from different perspectives.

 

I do not have the answer for how you will find what you are seeking.

 

My perspective is that you are seeking something that you perceive to be real.

Perhaps an ideal of how you would like to be as a person you  see in a relationship, family, friendship.

 

My way of looking at the quandary with mainstream society is

 

mainstream is boring

mainstream is copycat and pretend

mainstream does not think for itself but mimics

mainstream is not in touch with reality

mainstream is not imaginative or creative

 

Mainstream families, friends, couples are the same as watching a film about the ideal life!

Everyone gets on with everyone

Everyone is happy all of the time

Everyone agrees with everyone all of the time

Nobody argues

This is happiness?

 

Not in my mind.

 

My mind believes that seeking an ideal is not reality as what is an ideal? Who measures that?

Seeking happiness is a choice and we can try.

We might not find what we are looking for as in a preconceived of what we should have to be happy.

So why not change what we are looking for?

Why not stop looking?

Why not change what we do?

Why not change the question?

 

Why not work out what we really want? No what we believe we should have but what do we really want as an individual?

We all do not want to feel lonely. This is a human need. This is natural. This is not mental illness or a disability or condition.

 

My example when I go for a walk and I notice my environment I feel new energy within.

I notice the trees. I notice the different trees, the different sizes, shapes, colours. I notice the wind or breeze or lack of. I notice the grass, plants, nature. I notice the sky, the clouds, the glare or the moon, the stars at night.

If I am at the beach, I notice the sand, the sand dunes, the seaweed, the sea, the movement of the water, the colour of the water and so on.

I take notice of the smells.

I listen to the sounds. The seaside sounds are incredible when you really zone into them.

As are the sounds in the country, the hills.

The city sounds are different again.

The sounds of people, traffic, life, laughter.

Movement.

 

I want a part of the laughter too.

I know that most people bore me though.

I do not want to keep asking them different questions to find out about them when they give me monotone responses and do not enquire about me at all.

So I am happier alone than with them.

 

My theory is and this is mine that when I am happier within myself by doing what I enjoy and noticing real life which is nature and my environment, I smile more and people notice me and return my smile.

I feel included and then I do not feel lonely.

I do not need to sit in a cafe with noisy people and talk about boring every day stuff as that irritates me.

Most of the people you see in cafes are talking about boring stuff, their problems about their lives or their sufferings. Then there are the couples and families who go out together but sit there and are serious. Or they scroll through their phones.

 

Do you get where I am going with this?

 

We do not see behind closed doors the unhappiness as people are so busy. Too busy keeping up with each other all outdoing each other.

 

This probably makes no sense to you and I am hoping that you just stop reading if that is the case.

I do not want to upset you further.

 

I do not have the answer to your questions. You do.

 

I can only share my perspective.

That is exactly the same with any therapist or counsellor.

 

I do hope though that you are able to move past what has been and look at now which can help lead to a change in the future.

 

Your turn if you want to continue the conversation

Re: Motion - new pathways - air -sea -land -us

I forgot to add @chibam 

 

There are some very happy families and couples; friends.

 

Even some of them have moments of regret, unhappiness and yes loneliness.

 

Life is one big WHY

 

We have to live it as much as we  can and I just think if we are stuck with the same question we need to change the question.

We might not like the answer we get so find another question.

Keep on seeking in our own way

Never compare ourselves to others as we do not know their inner turmoil and do not want a whole different set of problems.

 

Perhaps that might help

 

Somehow I think that you will not like my way of thinking

That is okay you do not have to agree or like anything that I write.

You will not upset me.

 

I am different and I am like people who are different.

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