Sounds like a really hard day, @CheerBear. When I had my first procedure like this done back in the early 1980s, I was backpacking around the country with my boyfriend. I had to go to a random doctor too for the referral. The first one I went to was religious and didn't believe in referring for this. That was pretty awful to encounter first up. The second doctor was rough in his examination, and again not at all sympathetic, but I did get the referral. These were very harsh experiences for a young woman to be having, but the nurses at the clinic where the procedure was done were so good, kind and compassionate, for which I was so grateful. Hearing your experience yesterday, coupled with my own, reminds of how far we still have to go to be dealing with this issue in the community in a helpful way.

As you know, I'm a big raver, so no problems at all with your longer raves to me.

Big hugs for all of what you are going through.